Re: Re: [-empyre-] race, net-art, strategy



I certainly hope that the ghetto quote was not taken to anyone personally...it was merely used in order to draw a parrallel with how You or I can close a discussion...I am in awe that you Claudia do keep going will not allow issues of race or any form of prejudice shape you
 like you I will not sit down where there is need to keep communication open and challenging in a gentle way
...I will keep showing my face...and I certainly hope I don't bulldoze...I believe like you there are basic commonalities in human experience that also make me connect with people, love them in their difference...this takes courage and aroha(love) 
aroha nui (that literally means big love)
to you Claudia and all
leafa
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> From: "claudia raddatz" <claudia@anat.org.au>
> Date: 2003/07/31 Thu PM 02:44:05 GMT+12:00
> To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>, 
> 	"soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>, 
> 	"soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] race, net-art, strategy
> 
> If you ain't been to the ghetto.
> Don't come to the ghetto.
> 'Cause you won't understand the ghetto,
> so stay the fuck out of the ghetto.**
> from the song Ghetto Bastard
> 
> and if you did go to the ghetto ... listen carefully and watch ... if you
> went to rome do what the romans do ... once you pass this kind of initiation
> you will belong to the ghetto and all barriers are gone ... at least this
> has been my personal experience ... i have been accepted in many 'ghettos'
> because i don't go to tell people what to do, what to feel, how to behave,
> what should not be said and so on ... i believe this is respect
> 
> i might not be very welcome in the 'white ghettos' but even then this is not
> true ... i write to nazis, and i state my position as clearly as i do in
> this list ... but never went as a bulldozer, i realised one of the
> 'ideologists' just lost his dad and his mum wasn't coping very well, this is
> how i started one and every single one of my emails: i hope your mum is
> feeling better ... in the next sentence i would argue my Marxist view when
> it comes to economics ... i believe people defend vested interests and there
> is nothing that will convince me otherwise ... i believe that the synthesis
> of the female and the male principle at an ontological level is the
> androgyny and there is nothing that will convince me otherwise ... at the
> same time a AM A MAGIC-SPIRIT PRACTITIONER and there is nothing that will
> convince me otherwise because the spirit shows its face second after second
> and we insist to be consumed by mediocrity ... yeap, i am my own ghetto in
> many respects, so i you don't like the ghetto, stay away because i do reply
> {;-)
> 
> it has been a pleasure to take part of this list ... i like when people
> speak their mind, specially if i do not agree with their opinions, this way
> i am forced to get over "what the fuck is this person saying" to how can i
> answer in a way that i make my point clear and hopefully not be alienating
> so that the other person, with an opposite position, might be able to 'see'
> from where i am standing ...
> 
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> claudiahetto {;-)
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